The childhood of Josef Fritzl
Austrias newspaper “Ober- österreichische Nachrichten” wrote about the childhood of Josef Fritzl in todays issue.
The second world war was over when he was 10 years old. His home town Amstetten was totally destroyed by Allied bombers, and occupied by the Russian army.
Fritzl grew up in very poor conditions, and lived alone with his mother. His parents divorced after his birth. The father left Amstetten was never seen again.
His mother was a mysterious woman. She always had to protect her eyes with her hands against the sunlight.
Little Josef was bad at school, and used to play a lot of football in the streets of Amstetten with his friends. According to the opinion of a former playmate he was also a very bad football player. His playmates used to call him with his second name: “Fritzl!”
This is a very sad and disturbing story even from the begining.
better to kill this person
This man should be treated as he treated his daughter; first tie him up like a dog, then keep him in a dark musty dungeon for 24 years and have the male prisoners rape him daily. That is justice!
In depth psychoanalysis of this man may uncover the reasons behind the cruelest crime. The law will take its course in this particular case. Politicians may plan for very serious punitive provisions against child abusers and sex offenders. People from all corners of the world may react differently and feel sympathy for the victims as the facts would continue to get uncovered.
However, the most imporatant things at the moment are 1) investigation and the rehabilitation teams should work in a coordinated manner as to reveal facts and let facts help care operations planned for the victims ; 2) Media personnel should excercise restrain over their behavior and should let the victims live a normal social life ; 3) The role of society is very important and all concerned social groups of this family should extend social acceptance and empathy for the victims so the victims can be brought to normalisation.
I agree with Eileen, Joseph Firtzl should be punished to endure exactly the same physical and psychological torture he put his daughter Elizabeth and her children through all those years. His lawyer’s plea for insanity should be denied otherwise, this would be a great disappointment and mistrust towards Austrian Judicial system. He should be severely punished to imprisonment for life and in the worst conditions possible.
On the other hand, Mrs. Rosemarie Frizl should also go through intensive questioning along with psychoanalytic sessions in order to establish her connection and co-operation with her husband’s criminal lifestyle. It’s almost impossible to believe Mrs. Fritzl was unaware of her husband’s incest relationship with Elizabeth even before the imprisonment (from 11 to 18 yrs old) for 7 years, living under the same roof. In 99% of the Incest Cases around the World, the mother knows what’s going on and acts indifferent and submissive. In also most cases the reason of the mother’s unreasonable and unexplainable behavior consists of 1) Keeping the family together 2) Keeping her husband at home instead of him straying to chase other women which Mrs. R.Fritzl has experienced in the early years of her marriage with Joseph several times.
Austrian Judicial system should not try to cover up the truth by saying Mrs. Rosemarie Fritzl was unaware of the dungeon, on the contrary they should reveal every detail about this horror story. This story should’nt be considered as attributed to Austria only but to the entire humanity. Incest is common all over the world not just in Austria. People could learn a lot from it if the Political Systems allow it…………
This monster who robbed the childhood as well as the womanhood of his own daughter should never be allowed to see the light of the world once again. Equally culpable is his wife Rosemarie, who failed to notice her daughter’s trauma at the hand of her own father, before she was eventually taken away to the cellar. It is a mother, more than anyone else, who should feel the pulse of her daughter. As such, she too, must be put beside her monster husband.
PLEASE CUT HIS PENY AND LEAVE THE OTHER PRISIONER TO ABUSE HIM SO MANY TIMES, TO MAKE HIM FEEL WHAT HIS HAVE DONE. EYES FOR EYES AND TOOHT FOR TOOTH. THAT IS WHAT HE DESERVES.HE IS A MONTROUS, NOT SORRY FOR HIM. LET HIM DIED IN THE PRISION WITH A LOT PUNISHAMENT OR LET HIM GO FREE AND THE PEOPLE CAN DO TO HIM WHAT EVER THEY LIKE, THAT WILLBE FANTASTICCCCCC!!!
Great from England
So sad and tragic. I cannot believe that he managed to live a double life for all those years, with the other family members not suspecting anything strange and sinister going on!!
Elizabeth, you must be one very brave and courageous woman, to have survived this torment and abuse for all those years. I know that I could not have done it.
He is a monster and I agree with Eileen, let him suffer and beg for mercy every single day of whats left of his miserable life.
he should be punished
He must be put in prison and never to see the outside world ever again.
It seems increadible that the mother didn’t know as Matthew said it is indeed the mother who feels the pulse of not only her daughter but her son also, and i speak as a mother.
What one cannot resolve – if the daughter was an object of abuse and violence since 11 how is it that the mother allowed her to stay at home whilst she took the other children on a 3 week holiday?
The mother is without question involved perhaps under the threat of death at some point to herself or to Elizabeth, – i would hope for her sake that she is not – how could a mother live with such betrayal – how could a mother negate all maternal love and allow it to become so twisted. If there was any knowledge on the daughters part of the mothers involvment perhaps she has forgiven her mother due to her own first hand experience of the terror and pain that he was capable of inflicting, although we have no record of brutality towards the mother only that of the children.
Then i pondered how she was kept alive during his long stints away – i doubt that the
authorites will delve too deeply from all the history to the present – the motto seems to be – “ignorance is bliss.”
May the Lord bless Elizabeth and her children – a woman of exceptional courage – a woman who loved those born to her in incest – a woman who has a character that is rarely seen today. May God give her the strength to walk in forgiveness and restore to her a hundred fold now and in eternity. Take comfort that we all stand before the Lord at the end of our days and will render an account for all our deeds and will also render an account for standing by in silence when it was in our power to help – for all those who now surface with their confessions of suspisions and yet for decades said nothing. He rewards all according to their deeds.
DIS MAN IS SICK…. HE NEEDS TO BE TORTURED AND RAPED AND PUNISHED HE HAS FOREVER RUINED ALL THESE INOCENT PEOPLES LIVES PRAISE BE TO ALLAH HE GOES TO HELL SON OV A BITCH…..
AND HOW CAN HIS WIFE NOT NO THE DUMB OLD CRAFTY BITCH……. NEWAY PRESIDENT MUDA FUKIN BUSH ATLEAST FOR ONCE NOW DO WAT YOUR GOOD AT…… KILL HIM
Wen i read this story my stomach hurts i feel soo much for these poor people hopefully dey can lead a better life now.! I read sumwer dey r gunna put josef in a mentall place rather than a prison??? IS THE LAW FUKED UP.. DIS MAN NEEDS TO BE DELT WITH AND PUNISHED.. infact fey shud send him to dubia or saudi rabia wer wud jus look at the situation and kill him NO COURT CASES! Wat are they tryna investigate?? THE ANSWERS R ALL IN YOUR FACE
IF WUD DO A LIFE SENTANCE IN JAIL JUST TO KILL THIS CUNT PEOPLE LIKE THAT SHOULD NOT LIVE TO CURRUPT THE WORLD…
GOD BLESS HIS POOR FAMILY. O AND YES I AGREE THE WIFE??? CUM ON LOVE WE AINT STUPID HUSBAND LIKE WIFE BOTH SICK IN THE HEAD……… I CURSE JOSEF AND HIS WIFE DEY GO FRU THE WORST PAINFUL SLO DEATH EVER.
JESUS CHRIST PLEASE WATCH OVER OVER THEM TO REPENT.
what that bastard did is sooooooo inhumane. he should suffer the same way as his poor daughter and her kids suffered but the bastard may not live to see all those 24 years….so i believe that all his body parts should be slowly chopped off and the begining should be from that overactive dick………
Pressed about whether Rosemarie Fritzl could have known anything, Franz Polzer, the police chief of Lower Austria asked: “Do you think any wife in the world would be able to accept that kind of behaviour?” He added that no others were suspected of aiding Josef, saying: “We are not conducting an investigation into a crime involving accomplices.”
That’s some real thorough police work you have going on there in Austria folks!!! Why is it the police chief does not wish to investigate ALL possibilities?
allah will punish him for ever
austria should be the first country in the world to set this presedence for those who abues others such as this man did with hid daughter,
be the first ever in the history of th world,
fritz should be imprisoned in a dungeon as was his daughter until the day of his death, and to be given only the ammount of food that might keep him alive, without anything to occupy his time, nothing, papers radio television or anything related to the so called normal world,
let him co insane alone there in that place, wow what would it do to those who have yet to be caught,!!!
sincerely bob in mexico,
For all POLICE is to bLaMe. jAiL pOlIcE HEAD.
I think all that I can say about fritzl is how irrelevant he is. How pointless a human being who dedicated his life to an obsession with his daughter. He used all his motivation, “intelligence”, energy and ambition to do something he alone had control of…imprison and control through sex – his daughter. He never tried to do anything in life where he might not be in control – he is a coward, ofcourse, but despite all that posters on this forum seem to be unable to understand why he would do such a cruel, despicable crime. He is a narcististic sociopath whos one aim in life is to satisfy his every whim – be it sex (read domination and control), power of life or death – imprisoning his daughter and taking away 3 of her children. He is not worth studying as he is nothing but a pointless coward who lived to create a world around himself where he was the ultimate power – he is an unattractive, short, overweight man with an ugly face – he would have been ignored in his younger days – he chose to be what he is today. Lastly – his “lawyer” sais he is completely broken as a man – no he isnt. He is completely devastated that he was caught otherwise he would have continued to imprison his daughter and her children untill he died – when he would have either killed them or left them to die in the cellar and no-one would ever have known what he did. He only took Kerstin to hospital because Elisabeth almost certainly would have been imp[ossible to control without her daughter – he wanted to continue abusing all and sundry so he thought hed get away with taking her for treatment and then life would return to normal. He only “helped” Kerstin for his own reasons, that of continuied control over Elisabeth -
Austrian police are very inactive, incapable and worthless. They only wait for the salary to come to their account, doing absolute nothing. Frizl murdered 4 other young women, if he were caught before, this thing could not be happned. So punish police force. It is shame that there will be no investigation on police failing to locate Elizebth. Shame for Austria. Shame for Justice Minister who said “do not be so harch to Frizl. Justice minister should also be put in jail with Frizl.
kill that basterd
Who is the real victim in this terrible sitation? I mean, Elizabeth was trapped in that cellar for 24 years; but Fritzl will be forever trapped in the labyrinth of his ill mind. People say that Elizabeth was strong, how about Josef? Living with his illness, containing it harmlessly within the safe confines of his home (apart from the 4 women he raped and murdered of course). Why should he spend the rest of his life in prison when his mind has been his cell?
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Here is a comment that I would like to make
about Josef Fritzl and his wife Rosemarie …
Clearly that “person” (and one has to stretch the
definition of the word “person” in order to apply
it to that creature) known to the world as Josef
Fritzl was / is the DEVIL-INCARNATE —- AND
he should burn in h*ll for all of eternity for his evil.
In addition, it also needs to be stated that no person
on earth should allow themselves be fooled for
even one moment by the lies of “I didn’t know”
that are currently being claimed by that lying
and equally evil wife of this evil DEVIL!!!
That vile, evil, perverted, disgusting, devil
b**tch of a wife of that MONSTER KNEW!!
SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!!
She KNEW the whole time (or at least had
literally no excuse whatsoever to have not
at least ‘suspected’ something was amiss!!!)
She is a LIAR and she must think the entire world is
as perverted as both she and her husband are and
that by coming up with that ridiculous and flimsy
excuse that she can then convince the rest of
the world to then respond to her own complicity
the same way she chose to respond to that of
her husband’s evil — by ‘turning a blind eye’.
BOTH of them are utter DEVILS and one
cannot help but to hope that they both burn
in h*ll for all of eternity for their evil acts!!!!
She expects anyone on this planet who has even
half-a-brain-stem to believe for even one fraction
of a moment that she didn’t know anything at all?!?!
Give me a break!!!
For crying out loud–unless this woman is Helen
Keller –she has NO EXCUSE at all to not have
known (or at least ’suspected’) something strange
and conspiratorial was going on regarding her
daughter’s whereabouts and situation and that the
husband’s stories were just far too incredulous
and absolutely made no sense in the least bit!!!
After all — think about it — daughter runs away as a
very young teen; daughter mysteriously disappears
at the age of 18 (an age when she can both make
her own decisions and choose to get away from
her father and even bring charges against him); the
(convicted-rapist/arsonist) father gets a letter from
daughter 1 month after her disappearance which
ridiculously claims she has joined a cult and does
not want to have any contact with the family – yet
amazingly then later chooses (for 3 years in a row)
to simply leave 3 of her newborn babies on the
doorstep of very home that she tried to run away
from at least 2 X’s before and is “allegedly thought”
to have finally left in order to join some sort of
“phantom” cult (a “cult” which, unlike every other
cult, just somehow, seemingly has no desire to try
to indoctrinate the youth from birth, but rather it
simply allows it’s members to select a home –one
which in fact, is both not a part of the cult AND is
the very home from which the member ran in order
to join the cult —to raise their babies and kids of
the cult members) –ALL THE WHILE – the father
forbids ANYONE to ever for ANY REASON dare to
go ANYWHERE NEAR the mysterious basement
(which he always keeps locked, disappears to for
hours and days on end; has ‘unseen’ bathroom
equipment installed; and has a cement-barricaded
door installed which both has a security-code and
which was so complicated it needed inspection
by local government authorities in order to install).
Just 2 years before the “discovery” of what this
monster (and his devil wife via her complicity of
silence) did to their poor child – another young girl,
and former kidnap victim, was also found in Austria.
It was discovered that the other young kidnap /
rape victim had disappeared 8 years earlier and
had been held in a basement / dungeon where
she had been repeatedly raped the entire time
by the individual who had also kidnapped her.
Now —- even if the public was expected to
simply throw all common sense to the wind
and accept this monster’s devil-wife’s excuse
that she “didn’t know”, say, in the beginning …
it still stands to reason that after hearing about
the case of the other young girl 2 years earlier
—– this creep’s equally creepy wife would
have said something to herself like, say …
”””Hmmm … a young girl who disappeared 8 years
ago, out of no where, has been discovered
to have been held in a basement the entire
time and while there she was repeatedly
raped by the person who trapped her there.
Hmmm … my daughter, who repeatedly tried
to run away from my convicted-rapist husband
as a child has also mysteriously disappeared
– and – my convicted-rapist husband is
always coming across both ‘letters’ and
‘grandchildren’ that were allegedly left
by my daughter (who has vanished
without a trace) — and – meanwhile
my convicted-rapist husband also
has a mysterious basement that he
keeps under lock and key and never
allows anyone to come near — ever.
Hmmm … now I cannot help but to wonder
if that convicted-rapist husband I married
just may have had something to do with
the disappearance of our daughter – and
– the appearance of all these grandkids
and letters – and I also can’t help but to
wonder if that mystery-basement room
of his would, in some way / in any way,
be connected somehow to our child’s
disappearance and / or the mysterious
appearance of all of these grandchildren.”””
Yes – one would think that – even if this woman
could have claimed ‘ignorance’ earlier – (a lie
which, again, no one with any common sense
should ever consider buying into) – once the
discovery was made of a similar situation 2
years earlier – she then had NO excuse to not
have at least been suspicious of something
about her convicted-rapist husband and his
ever-so-mysterious hidden basement room.
That vicious devil simply did not care at all about
her own daughter – or — she simply cared more
about her own creature-comforts and keeping up
with her middle-class appearances than she did
about the torture being done to her own child.
THAT POOR GIRL’S VILE, DISGUSTING
PERVERTED LYING B*TCH OF A MOTHER
KNEW FULL WELL WHAT WAS GOING ON
– SHE KNEW– SHE KNEW– SHE KNEW!!!
THAT WIFE IS A B*TCH, A DEVIL AND A
VILE PERVERT AND ONE CANNOT HELP
BUT TO TRULY HOPE THAT— SINCE SHE
OBVIOUSLY FELT SOME STRANGE NEED
TO BE SO VERY LOYAL TO THAT DEVIL,
OF A PERVERTED CONVICTED-RAPIST
AND ARSONIST FREAK OF A HUSBAND
OF HERS AND TO CHOOSE TO STAND BY
HIS SIDE FOR A QUARTER OF A CENTURY
ALL THE WHILE THAT HE IMPRISONED
AND ALSO SEXUALLY AND PHYSICALLY
AND MENTALLY TORTURED THEIR
CHILD — SHE WILL REMAINS BY
HIS SIDE AS THEY BOTH BURN
IN H*LL FOR ALL OF ETERNITY!!
She is clearly as much of a
pervert and devil as is he!!
Would anyone even be remotely surprised
if further investigation later revealed that
‘Rosemarie Fritzl’ (who is actually trying to
get the world to see her as a co-victim of
her daughter’s horrific nightmare of a life)
was actually just another ‘Rosemary West’
(a woman whose husband also originally –
and falsely – claimed that she had nothing
to do with his unbelievably evil sex crimes)?
What kind of a woman, after all, chooses to marry
(or remained married to) a man who had already
committed and also been convicted of previously
raping another woman and has shown absolutely
no remorse about any of it whatsoever in the least.
SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!!
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Put JOSEF FRITZL in the dungeon of his own making and do on to him as he did to ELISABETH.
NARCISTISTIC SOCIOPATH have no feelings of pity of others. And the sex was use as a weapon to hurt her ELISABETH DEAD YEARS AGO INSIDE HER HEAD.